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pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Commission File No: 001-31527
Subject Company: Concord EFS, Inc.
This communication is not a solicitation of a proxy from any security holder of
First Data Corporation or Concord EFS, Inc., and First Data Corporation and
Concord EFS, Inc. will be filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission a
joint proxy statement/prospectus to be mailed to security holders and other
relevant documents concerning the planned merger of Concord EFS, Inc. with a
subsidiary of First Data Corporation. WE URGE INVESTORS TO READ THE JOINT PROXY
STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS AND ANY OTHER RELEVANT DOCUMENTS TO BE FILED WITH THE SEC,
BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Investors will be able to
obtain the documents free of charge at the SEC's website, www.sec.gov. In
addition, documents filed with the SEC by First Data Corporation will be
available free of charge from First Data Investor Relations, 6200 S. Quebec St.,
Suite 340, Greenwood Village, CO, 80111. Documents filed with the SEC by Concord
EFS, Inc. will be available free of charge from Concord Investor Relations, 2525
Horizon Lake Drive, Suite 120, Memphis, TN, 38133.
First Data Corporation and Concord EFS, Inc., and their respective directors and
executive officers and other members of their management and employees, may be
deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies from the stockholders
of First Data Corporation and Concord EFS, Inc. in connection with the merger.
Information about the directors and executive officers of First Data Corporation
and their ownership of First Data Corporation stock is set forth in the proxy
statement for First Data Corporation's 2002 annual meeting of stockholders.
Information about the directors and executive officers of Concord EFS, Inc. and
their ownership of Concord EFS, Inc. stock is set forth in the proxy statement
for Concord EFS, Inc.'s 2002 annual meeting of stockholders. Bond Isaacson, who
became Co-Chief Executive Officer of Concord in 2002, holds approximately
400,000 Concord stock options. Employment and compensation agreements of certain
potential participants, including change of control arrangements, are filed as
exhibits to the Concord Form 10-K filed March 27, 2003. Executive officers of
Concord may participate in a retention bonus program that would pay bonuses in
connection with the merger. Investors may obtain additional information
regarding the interests of the participants by reading the joint proxy
statement/prospectus when its becomes available.
"THE FOLLOWING IS A TRANSCRIPT OF A CONFERENCE CALL OF
FIRST DATA CORPORATION AND CONCORD EFS, INC.
ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 2, 2003"
With respect to non-GAAP financial information provided on this conference call,
First Data will provide a reconciliation to the GAAP financial numbers in the
investor section on First Data's website.
THE OPERATOR:
Good morning and thank you for standing by. All participants will be able to
listen only until the question-and-answer session of today's conference. This
conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at
this time. I would like to introduce the host for today's conference, Mr. David
Banks.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
Welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us this morning. We are here today to
provide you some details about the transaction we announced this morning
involving the merger between First Data and Concord. With me today are Charlie
Fote, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Kim Patmore, Chief Financial
Officer. Also joining us today on our call is Dick Kiphart, Chairman of Concord.
Today's call is being recorded. Our press release is available on our web site
at www.FirstData.com.
I want to remind you that our comments today include forward-looking statements
and I ask that you refer to the cautionary information in our fourth-quarter
earnings release. All statements made by First Data and Concord officers on this
call are the property of First Data and Concord and are subject to copyright
protection. Recording, replay or distribution of any transcription of this call
is prohibited without the expressed written consent of First Data and Concord.
Information provided on this call is not a solicitation of a proxy from any
security holder of First Data Corporation or Concord EFS. First Data and Concord
will be filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission a joint proxy
statement prospectus to be mailed to security holders and other relevant
documents concerning the planned merger of Concord with a subsidiary of First
Data Corporation. We urge investors to read the joint proxy statement prospectus
and any other relevant documents we filed with the SEC. They will contain
important information. Investors will be able to obtain the documents free of
charge at the SEC's web site, www.SEC.gov. In addition, documents filed with the
SEC by First Data will be available free of charge from First Data Investor
Relations.
One final note before I turn it over to Charlie -- I hope by now you've seen the
release we issued this morning announcing the transaction. In the attachment to
that release, we indicated that First Data `s 2002 EPS was $1.62 as we reported
in our fourth-quarter earnings release. Because of some events that occurred
subsequent to that release but prior to the filing of the 10-K, we took about a
$13 million charge,
equating to one cent of EPS impact for the year, primarily related to the
bankruptcy of one of our card issuing customers. Therefore, our reported EPS for
2002, as indicated in the 10-K, was actually $1.61. Our recurring EPS remained
at $1.66 for last year, even with these additional charges. I'll now turn the
call over to Charlie, who will provide some highlights, and then open it up to
your questions.
Charlie? Operator, I think we have temporarily lost the speaker line that
Charlie was on, so bear with us for just a second, please.
THE OPERATOR:
One moment.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
Please bear with us; we're having some difficulties.
THE OPERATOR:
Mr. Fote's line has disconnected. One moment, please.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
Hello? Operator? Was that a line coming in there?
THE OPERATOR:
One moment -- please stand by. Please stand by. Charles Fote is joining. Please
standby for Mr. Fote.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
Charlie?
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
I don't know if we are live or what.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
I believe we are live. Operator, are we live?
THE OPERATOR:
Yes, sir.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
Charlie, was it something that I said? I finished my intro, so I'm throwing it
to you.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let me tell you what I think happened. I think there were 1200 call-ins, so at
the end of this call, people can apply for a Star Card by just pressing one.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
All right.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
David, I assume you are done with all the introductions. We couldn't hear you at
all.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
I have finished the introductions. I was going to go over it again, but I
figured people wouldn't enjoy it.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Good morning, everyone. Exciting news today, and I know you've seen the
announcement on the pending acquisition of Concord EFS. I know that many of you
have been asking about this potential opportunity over the past several months
and as it turns out, most rumors are true. I'm sure we'll raise some questions
for you, so today, we will spend some time with one of our partners here, then I
will open it up for questions. I'll be brief in my remarks and then I'll ask
Dick Kiphart from Concord EFS, the Chairman of Concord EFS, to make some opening
remarks. Then we will, as I said turn it to questions.
So here's the deal -- the exchange rate of .40 First Data shares for every share
of Concord - last night closed at $13.87 for each Concord share -- a $7 billion
transaction tax-free, a break-up fee of $210 million. We anticipate to close the
transaction the third or fourth quarter this year. It's all stock, and I will
comment a little further on that a little later here. Upon completion, the new
combination of both companies will create the world's premier electronic
transactions company for a point-of-sale capture in all types of electronic
transactions. The acquisition will strengthen First Data's position, as we
enable merchants and their customers to complete financial transactions
conveniently and securely at millions of point-of-sale transactions around the
world -- sales locations around the world. The combined entities bring
significant enterprise capabilities to the table with great scale, brands and
for sure the best people in the industry. The transaction represents a
significant step in developing an open and flexible electronic payment
infrastructure that will foster competition to the benefit of consumers,
merchants and banks. Assessing our combined depth and scale will provide banks
and merchants alike an unprecedented voice in the introduction of new payment
offerings to consumers around the world.
From a strategic standpoint, it will add universal authentication for all types
of electronic transactions at the point-of-sale and beyond. Let me repeat that
-- from a strategic standpoint, it will add universal authentication for all
types of electronic transactions at the point-of-sale and beyond. The
combination will create increased presence in high-growth markets and will
extend and improve the bank-centric strategy that currently serves as the
hallmark to First Data.
For the financial institutions, it will add to their integrated suite of
outsourced services and our bank-centric strategy will stay in place. For our
merchants, we will offer merchants an even broader range of pin-based debit,
credit and off-line debit. We will offer merchants integrated suites of services
and expand our value added services at all point-of-sale locations, including
PCs at home. It will allow us to create cost efficiencies at the same time.
Quite simply, this is a good deal for shareholders for both organizations.
Adding the resources and capability of Concord, the combined companies will
generate over $10 billion in revenue and based on Concord's growth rates, along
with First Data's, we will be able to maintain or improve our projected
long-term EPS growth rates of 14 to 17 percent. We will have more than 31,000
employees around the world and our combined market capitalization, based on last
night's closing prices, will be north of $32 billion.
Also importantly, you know we have talked many times in the past about our
continued ability to grow earnings through strong cash generation. Concord will
be additive to that strength. They already bring a significant amount of cash at
closing and they will generate over $400 million in free cash next year from
operating activities. So, this deal further enhances our First Data quality of
earnings and for sure, the deal is accretive from a GAAP standpoint in 2005.
Strategically, both Concord and First Data see several benefits. First, it
strengthens our respective positions as leading payment service enterprises. The
deal clearly leverages the strong presence of both First Data and Concord in the
online debit space and as I said earlier, all types of transaction debit payment
space. It combines the positions of both firms in certain vertical markets,
specifically supermarkets, petroleum outlets and QSRs. The combined entity
creates an operating platform with a lower-cost base and expands upon the direct
settlement capabilities of each entity. But most importantly, the universal
authentication of transactions at the point-of-sale is the predominate strategic
reason for doing this transaction. Most importantly, it adds to
First Data's largely transaction-based recurring revenue stream with Concord's
market strength, products, processes and technologies. As we reminded you on
many occasions in the past, both First Data and Concord benefit from the
underlying consumer trend for its increased usage of electronic forms of
payment, also known from my predecessor as a secular trend.
Some estimates call for electronic payments to make up nearly 50 percent of all
payment transactions by the year 2010 and that number, as you know, is about 35
percent today. So here is a quick recap of the deal -- Concord shareholders will
receive .40 shares of First Data for each share of Concord. First Data will
issue approximately 200 million common shares to Concord. The purchase price is
$13.87, based on yesterday's close, with a transaction total of seven billion,
including all equity and debt. Upon completion, Concord shareholders will earn
about 21 percent of the outstanding shares of First Data. Now, of the $1.2
billion of acquired cash, north of $1 billion will be used to buy back First
Data's stock as soon as it is legally allowable. The deal and integration costs
are about $400 million and the buyback that I mentioned earlier of over $1
billion is in addition to their authorized buyback that is already on the table
that has about $250 million left in the authorization. The deal will be
non-dilutive for First Data in the first year and as I said, we expect the
combination to generate enhanced cash flow during its first year of consolidated
operations a create a strong quality of earnings for the combined companies.
For those of you who keep track of this, non-cash expenses -- non-cash expenses,
when you take what Concord had and what we're going to replace it with, will be
about $100 million on an annual basis. Both the First Data and Concord Boards
approved the deals in yesterday's meeting -- respective Board meetings -- and
for sure, as you know, the deal is subject to shareholder approval for both
companies, as well as certain regulatory approvals. Now, let me turn it over to
Dick Kiphart, who will add just a few words from Concord's viewpoint.
MR. DICK KIPHART:
Thanks, Charlie. We at Concord are very pleased to be a part of this great
combination. Today, Concord operates the largest pin-based online debit network
in the U.S., driving more than 200,000 ATMs and servicing some 900,000 merchants
at the point-of-sale. We offer the strength of proven brand names in the ATM
business with STAR and MAC, with broad and significant customer relationships in
the point-of-sale business and key vertical markets, particularly in
supermarkets and at petroleum outlets. Combined with First Data's presence at
three million merchant locations and its connections to 300 million plus
cardholders, the combined entity will create an unmatched powerhouse. Concord
shareholders will benefit in the following ways -- with the union of First Data
and Concord, we will add the processing expertise and scale to the already
significant market presence we enjoyed in some of the fastest-growing vertical
markets in the industry, including supermarkets, petroleum outlets and
quick-service stores; we will enhance our presence in the ATM and network world.
The deal represents significant premiums to our closing price yesterday; it's 11
times 2002 EBITDA, 20.5 times 2002 net income and nearly 20 times our 2003 net
income.
Finally, one of the most important benefits to Concord will be in helping
leverage First Data's significant scale and cash flow to help us win the network
bank contacts up for renewal in the next 18 to 24 months. I know the uncertainty
of these contract renewals have been a source speculation over the last few
weeks and months. We think this partnership offers a unique opportunity to
better position us to retain these contracts. In the past, I know Charlie has
reminded you that First Data is very bank-centric in their approach to the
marketplace, both in their card issuing business and particularly through their
merchant bank alliance partners. We think these relationships, coupled with
First Data's strong cash flows and ours, will put us in a more competitive
position to renew these contracts in the coming months. Renewals
of those contracts are critical to the long-term strength of Concord. I know
they are important to First Data. Together, we think choosing the First
Data/Concord combination will become obvious to our bank clients as they work
through the decision-making process. In short, I would echo Charlie's comments
at the beginning of the call -- this new combination will create THE premier
payment services company in the world. It will add our significant presence to
First Data's leadership position to bring benefits to banks, merchants and
consumers across the globe. I will turn it back to Charlie.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
One more item before we open it up for questions. As I said before, we will do
transactions of any size when they fit into our core competencies. For sure,
make no mistake about it, every part of the Concord company that we are
acquiring, touches -- in some macro way -- operations and applications of the
current First Data. So before we open it up, David, I'd like to welcome all the
employees from Concord that are on the call, and I'm looking forward to meeting
each and every one of you in the near future. So with that, David?
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
Thanks, Charlie. Operator, let's go ahead and open it up to questions.
THE OPERATOR:
Thank you. At this time, we're ready to begin the question and answer session.
(OPERATOR GIVES CALLER INSTRUCTIONS.) Greg Gould of Goldman, Sachs, you may ask
your question.
THE CALLER:
Charlie, you mentioned -- or it was in the press release -- that the cost
savings could be about $230 million. Could you give us a rough breakdown of how
that could be -- what sources?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
If you take the combined entities, you're talking just in the point-of-sale
segment and the issuing segment, which is -- you know, you have the network here
-- if you just wanted to try to lay them up next to each other -- you take the
network side, lay it against our card business and you take the point-of-sale
side and you lay it up against our merchant business, you're talking of combined
expenses of over $6 billion. So you're talking less than -- around four percent
to come up with $240 million, obviously. So, from that standpoint, the cost
savings certainly are in line with what we think we can do.
THE CALLER:
Does that six billion include the gross or the pass through interchange that
Concord reports?
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
No, that's the way First Data records its numbers. Because we are I believe the
expense side, and that's not including the expenses, okay?
THE CALLER:
Okay. One other question on NYCE -- how would you envision STAR and NYCE in a
post-acquisition world?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I think it's a very powerful combined network that brings to the marketplace
alternatives that are grossly needed in the marketplace.
THE CALLER:
Would STAR be integrated fully into -- sorry, NYCE be integrated fully into
STAR, and the NYCE brand dropped?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Listen, you have concentrated networks around the world. We are very
bank-centric here, Greg, so that's probably too early to call but from an
expense standpoint, other than some marketing expenses, I think we get the
efficiencies and the economies, from a back room standpoint, as if the two
companies were running together.
THE CALLER:
One last question -- management of Concord -- are there any agreements in-place
for retention?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Absolutely. We wouldn't have done the deal unless we've got the agreements
in-place.
THE CALLER:
Can you elaborate on which ones?
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
Which agreements?
THE CALLER:
Which people does it involve?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Listen, we will take that at another meeting, but for all the top players we
have agreements in-place, every one of them.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Jim Kissane of Bear Stearns.
THE CALLER:
Charlie, I can see that you have a lot more leverage than Concord in negotiating
with the STAR Banks, but isn't one of the biggest strategic problems the fact
that the banks seem to be pushing off-line debit much more aggressively than
pin-based debit, just given the economics at the point-of-sale?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let's talk about that. That's why I said the strategy is universal
authentication of all type transactions at point-of-sale (indiscernible due to
multiple speakers). That's what I'm going to do here. Then you'll have to ask me
if I really got it out in English when I'm done here. Just think of this -- when
you can electronically sign anything, including transactions from your home PC,
it's kind of a secret code you sign with, so the transaction has a pretty good
chance of sticking closer to 100 percent of the time than in off-line
signature-based mode, okay? So, if you think about the attributes that are
brought to the point-of-sale, they are tremendous. What's going to happen at the
point-of-sale over time? I believe every transaction is going to be signed
electronically. The consumer will pay for the type of account they want through
their issuer.
So, I like to use American Express as an example because they have Personal
Card, Gold Card, Platinum Card and Black Card. You paid different rates for
those cards; you pay different membership fees. At the point-of-sale, you decide
which plastic you are going to use, based on the demographics or the type of
consumer you are. When you electronically authenticate the transaction, you just
identified yourself as who you are and the verification happens against some
database that says, Jim Kissane is Jim Kissane. The difference that you pay for
your card -- your card type, or your account type -- is based on what you want
to do. You might want to pay $50 a year and get two miles for every dollar you
spend, and then you might spend $100 a year on your card and get four miles for
every dollar you spend. Well, the point-of-sale shouldn't differentiate what
type of customer you are. So, we believe the backroom on the account
relationship with a consumer will be the application of the point-of-sale and
every transaction will be authenticated at the point-of-sale from your home PC.
So, this is a big deal from that standpoint.
THE CALLER:
As you talked to Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank One, I mean, do you have sign in? How
quickly can we see the STAR Banks renewed?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
You'll see that over time. You put me on the spot on that because the contracts
expire at STAR over a long period of time. There are over 3000 -- (technical
difficulty) -- 6200 banks that belong to the network, Jim, and most of the large
ones expire in 2004 -- at the end of 2004, okay? So, we will keep you posted.
THE CALLER:
Just one last question, not to take up too much time -- are you essentially
creating an alternative network that creates more competition, relative to
MasterCard and Visa, for the banks and the merchants?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
For sure, this network and the combined networks as we put them together is very
competitive.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Greg Gieber of A.G. Edwards.
THE CALLER:
I'd like to follow up a little bit on Jim's questions there. Have you addressed
the antitrust issues that might be involved? Obviously, I think what we are
trying to say is that on the network side, you create a new alternative to the
MasterCard Visa thing and that should not be a problem, but on the
merchant-acquiring side, the two of you together become about a 50 percent
player. How do you propose presenting this transaction to the Department of
Justice? Will you possibly take any of the Concord assets and (indiscernible) on
the merchant side and distribute them to your current alliances?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I don't want to negotiate the Department of Justice deal here on this call, but
let me just say this -- for us to do this transaction from both sides, we feel
pretty good about the antitrust issue.
THE CALLER:
Okay. How about -- would you transfer any of Concord assets on the merchant side
to the alliances (technical difficulty) time?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I don't want to comment on the long-term plan, but I will make this behavioral
comment -- the last time we did a transaction like this, we purchased merchant
contracts from Wells Carson, who had previously purchased the Citibank merchant
portfolio. We also purchased merchant contracts when we did the FFMC
transaction, First Financial Management, back in 1995. Subsequent to those
transactions, we created the alliances.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
David Togut of Morgan Stanley.
THE CALLER:
Charlie, can you hear me?
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
Yes, David.
THE CALLER:
Yes, I just got off a plane. I apologize if you addressed this earlier. If you
haven't already, could you perhaps talk a little bit about the due diligence
process? Describe how long it went on, the process you went through on the STAR
Bank annual discussions? Are there any contingencies in the purchase price based
on the success of the STAR member bank renewals?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let me start with the last one -- the last issue. In our model and in our deal,
we've taken into consideration many one-time financial events. Okay, so let me
leave that there. From a due diligence standpoint, we had -- in this
transaction, we had a whole group of internal people, probably over 200 on the
internal team, that touched the due diligence. But externally, we had two of
everybody and in some cases three. So we had two bankers, two asset evaluators,
three law firms and that went on -- and two accounting firms. So from a due
diligence standpoint, we drilled deep on it internally and we also looked at it
very hard from an outside standpoint. So, that was the due diligence process and
due diligence colleagues that were on the team. Did I leave out -- did you ask
me one other thing, or are you going to ask me one other thing?
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE - DAVID BANKS:
Charlie, I think he also asked about the STAR Bank renewals, which you may
already have touched on in a previous answer.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
David, we have the waterfall schedule, we know who they are and we are working
hard to get the business. I think we lost David.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE- DAVID BANKS:
Go ahead, operator -- next caller.
THE OPERATOR:
Bryan Keane.
THE CALLER:
My first question is just on the thought process around doing an all-stock deal.
Did you think about doing some cash in the deal, and why all stock?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
That's how we negotiate a transaction. But all the extra cash that is in the
deal, Bryan, we're going to buy back our own stock.
THE CALLER:
$1 billion?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
They are going to bring about 1.4 billion across, and we have about -- our
authorized stock buyback internally is about 350 million, so just as it exists
today, we had a buyback program that's closer to north of 1.5 billion, for sure.
THE CALLER:
Let me also ask on the STAR Bank question a little different angle -- have you
had any discussions yet with any of the major STAR Banks about a possible
NYCE/STAR alliance?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
We've had discussions with STAR Banks about coming over to NYCE, so we're going
to compete like a son of a gun until this thing closes, okay? Let me elaborate
on the first question. In addition to the combination of results here and the
significant de-leveraging of the SEC balance sheet, this is going to give us a
lot of flexibility on debt capacity, going forward too, Bryan.
THE CALLER:
Just finally, maybe on the STAR Banks, are you more prone to do kind of a JV
relationship similar to NYCE, or will you consider cap payments, upfront cost to
win back some of that business?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Bryan, we're very bank-centric. I think you'll see a combination of some upfront
payments, some sharing in revenue like our RSA -- our revenue sharing alliances.
I think you'll see a combination of different ways, three different ways of
doing business -- RSA's, which is revenue share, profit share, which is
ownership, and then just straight-out cash bonuses.
THE CALLER:
Do you think the Wal-Mart retailer lawsuit will have any effect on the
negotiations, the outcome of that?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
All I can tell you is I think it is upside for this transaction. I think that
type of activity is only good for First Data.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Adam Frisch of UBS Warburg.
THE CALLER:
Charlie, I just want to clarify some of your comments before. When you say the
entity is bank friendly, going forward, can we assume, then, that whatever the
surviving EFT network is, whether it be STAR or NYCE or both or whatever, that
interchange power will be with the banks -- whatever that network might be?
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
Wait a minute. The interchange -- you mean, are we going to have our own
interchange rates and so on?
THE CALLER:
I guess Concord controls the interchange rate; your banks control the
interchange on NYCE. The surviving entity, going forward -- will the banks have
control of interchange, going forward, whatever the entity is called, going
forward?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
For a whole bunch of reasons, I don't want to comment on that, but we will be
bank-centric there too.
THE CALLER:
Okay.
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
Don't make the assumption one way or the other. I mean, we will let the banks
work with us there.
THE CALLER:
How does this transaction position you more favorably at the point-of-sale, in
terms of routing order? Does the leverage with the network with your other
merchant services or card issuing services enable some kind of bundled pricing
that would position you more favorably to the merchants at the point-of-sale
because you would be able to offer a lower-cost alternative to the merchants?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I don't want to comment on -- I hate the term bundled pricing, but let me just
say this -- we have a significant number of point-of-sale devices that we can
add this type of branding to in a very economical way and do it very quickly.
Okay?
THE CALLER:
I think I got what you mean there.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
That means we have a lot of merchants that we can add online or authentication
capabilities to very quickly.
THE CALLER:
Okay, I got it. In terms of the impact of this transaction on your merchant
service payment processing, I think that's kind of obvious -- but two areas
which may not be as obvious I guess is First Data NET. I don't know if prior
questions kind of touched on that. What do you see the impact of this
transaction on First Data NET first of all? Second of all, does this transaction
potentially cover your plank, so to speak, on future threats to Western Union in
terms of ATM/money transfers and things like that?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
The ATM/money transfers -- I talked about it before -- we are doing seven
transactions a year and we are able to -- we have products that do it today.
That business is the distribution network right now and 300 million we are
spending on advertising and the 155,000 human locations. Now, just in case, we
have ATM capability; we have point-of-sale capability for Western Union
transactions; we have PC capability from home and so on. But right now, that's
what the business is, so if one thinks that our ATM network will take over the
Western Union business -- (technical difficulty) -- this gives us some
transaction in replacing that business with ATMs. Having said that, that was a
very -- we didn't even talk about that in doing this transaction.
From a bank-centric standpoint, I don't know -- we will deal with merchants
directly, we will deal with banks directly and we'll deal with consumers
directly. So, you have the associations and then you have First Data and you
have STAR brands and the NYCE brand and so on, so we will be all over the front
here with different product offerings.
THE CALLER:
Can you comment specifically on the impact of FirstData NET or would you rather
leave that alone?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
FirstData NET -- and I think you're talking about the litigation that has come
up -- but not being that direct. That litigation -- you know, First Data Net
hasn't been calculated in our financials, the benefit of First Data Net. Any
projections we've given you -- we will probably have -- the next round of STAR
contracts will probably expire by the time that thing goes to court, so First
Data NET as far as the VISA lawsuit goes, the litigation is different than STAR
being accepted at merchants and going to STAR Banks. It's a different
application, right?
THE CALLER:
Right.
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
Okay, so this will not affect us in the First Data Net environment, other than
we will be doing transactions that move from point A to point B in a very
efficient way. That's what First Data Net was all about.
THE CALLER:
The last question -- on universal authorization, just to follow up on Jim's
question -- were you implying that in the future, it might be possible to do a
credit card transaction with a pin?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Absolutely. You have that going on around the world in some of the countries
today, so you are doing electronic authorization at the point-of-sale. I mean,
that transaction moves quickly, settles quickly and has very little chance of
being bounced because it's not the right person.
THE CALLER:
Thanks, Charlie.
THE OPERATOR:
Karen Young (phonetic) of Allstate.
THE CALLER:
Could you talk a little bit about the integration plan? What specifically you
will be doing on the merchant at the Network side of the business? Secondly, the
400 million in cost associated with the transaction -- could you break out what
that is? It strikes me as high on a $7 billion deal. Thanks. Also, the last
thing -- taxes -- what do you think the combined tax rate will be for the
Company as well?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Okay. Let me go through the onetimers for (inaudible). (indiscernible due to
multiple speakers). Why don't you do integration and I will go through the
onetime?
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
Okay, on the integration plan, we do have a plan identified already to go in
across the board, from datacenter to technology to platforms to facility to
people and of course, we will be working on that over the next several months
prior to closing to make sure we have a very clear integration plan. On a
combined tax rate, of course, I think you can see, going forward, the tax rate
we've had -- you'd have to just take our blended tax rate and what you've seen
on what Concord has disclosed in the past.
THE CALLER:
Okay.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
Okay. On the combined, the 400 million of cost -- we do believe we will have
some integration cost, obviously, related to platforms and systems. Then in
addition to that, that also includes all of the deal cost, which at this point
in time are estimated to be about 100 million.
THE CALLER:
Okay. Is there any way that (indiscernible) -- because of what you're doing on
the First Data side, that you can lower the tax rate that Concord was paying?
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
We will certainly look at all of those opportunities, as we always would. We
will take a harder look and we will go more in-depth during this integration
plan period. In addition, keep in mind what Charlie said about the 100 million
of additional, non-cash amortization that's based on $1.5 billion estimate of
intangibles.
THE CALLER:
Okay, thank you. Just one last thing -- who is going to be doing what, from a
management perspective?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
That's for a later conversation.
THE CALLER:
Okay. Do you know when you will have -- when you will be able to talk about
that?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let me tell you what our plan is here. Don't hold me to this, because everything
is moving online here, no pun intended, online versus off-line. We have a
conference coming up for our payment company May 8th in New York. Remember, we
broke -- I don't know if you remember, we said we would have different
conferences for different segments. Based on where we are in the proxy filing
and so on, we will probably have -- try to have a meeting with these folks in
New York some time around May 8th, okay?
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Aaron Scuaff (phonetic) of HSBC.
THE CALLER:
If I heard you right, I thought you said nondilutive in the first year. I'm just
trying to figure out -- you're talking about cost-saving on an annualized basis
of 230 million by 2005. Am I to assume that there's no cost savings up until
then? If that is the case, does that mean that it is nondilutive in calendar
'03, calendar '04? If not, is it accretive in any period between today and the
end of `04?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Call it neutral, accretive, accretive, and forever accretive.
THE CALLER:
So neutral calendar '03, accretive calendar '04, accretive calendar '05, if I
heard you right?
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
We said beginning in '05, we will be accretive, so if you read the
(indiscernible due to multiple speakers).
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
From a GAAP standpoint.
THE CALLER:
Okay, so neutral calendar '04?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
(Indiscernible) so yes.
THE CALLER:
I appreciate the guidance.
THE OPERATOR:
Jeff Baker.
THE CALLER:
Other than the obvious on the STAR/MoneyGram relationship and
(indiscernible) Wal-Mart, can you give us a little insight into that? Have you
talked with Wal-Mart, etc.?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Well, that was a -- was that a (indiscernible) or are you talking about
MoneyGram being on those kiosks?
THE CALLER:
I'm talking about MoneyGram being on those kiosks.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Listen, the Western Union product on kiosk, I won't comment on the MoneyGram
one, but on the Western Union one, it just doesn't have a lot of traction.
So, we are doing check cashing on kiosk with third-party vendors, we're doing
money transfers on kiosk directly from a First Data code standpoint. And our
partner in the gaming business, as you might recall -- Global Cash Access --
runs ATMs that have Western Union and money transfer capability on them today
at. So, we will solve for sure the MoneyGram issue, but more importantly than
that, I think we need to understand that the money transfers at ATMs or kiosks,
let me call them supercharged ATMs -- not a big deal right now from a revenue
and profit standpoint.
THE CALLER:
Okay, and then, if I heard you correctly, just to clarify, the -- call them the
cap payments that you're planning on, or potentially having to make to re-sign
the STAR member banks -- is, in the 2004 guidance of neutral and that's why
we're seeing a neutral transaction here, essentially?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Listen, the accounting -- let's just tell you (indiscernible) we've taken
account for the three ways that we will participate with the re-ups. One is
upfront payments, one is the RSAs and one might be part ownership. So those
would be the three methods of incentifying or doing deals with STAR member banks
(indiscernible).
THE CALLER:
You would get to expense all those in `04, correct?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Depending on how the transaction was treated. We have a part owner, who is the
shared ownership, right? Just assume that we've taken into consideration --
based on what we know and we got pretty deep in due diligence -- based on what
we know how the three different types of compensation would fall out, okay?
THE CALLER:
Okay. Then the last question on the Wal-Mart/Visa lawsuit -- obviously the judge
ruled yesterday. What is your thoughts? Does it settle before? Does it go to
court? Does it settle during? Can you talk about that?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I haven't been good at (indiscernible) on any of those the last five years, why
would I try to guess (indiscernible)?
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Dirk Godsey of J.P. Morgan.
THE CALLER:
Congratulations. Just in terms of a couple of extra details here, I just want to
be clear on some of these things. Other than the .40 ratio, are there any caps
callers or other kind of resets on that ratio?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
No, fixed exchange rate.
THE CALLER:
You mentioned the breakup fee. Any restrictions on sales of stock from former
executives and insiders at Concord?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Not unless they were in their current operating agreements, or only if they had
them in their current employment agreements before we took over.
THE CALLER:
In terms of getting kind of the proxies, relative to those shares owned by
directors and employees of Concord, can you talk at all about the percentage of
votes that you've already captured relative to the approval process
(indiscernible)? (indiscernible) all those guys already agreed to vote their
shares -- I mean, do you have a percentage?
MR. DICK KIPHART:
Yes, we will vote our shares in favor.
THE CALLER:
Overall, just to put a number on that, how much of an approval ratio do you
already have on the deal -- going in before the outside shareholders?
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
I really don't know. Don't know.
THE CALLER:
Just last question on the deal -- (indiscernible) can you talk a little bit or
describe some of the key milestones required to get this deal over the finish
line over the next couple of quarters? You mentioned Q3, Q4. What are some of
the key things we need to be looking for in terms of documents coming out,
proxies, shareholder votes, etc.?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Hold on one second. I want to try to get some (indiscernible). I'd say
(indiscernible) the proxies, 30 to 60 days (inaudible) we've got to file -- then
you've got the whole public (indiscernible); you've got the shareholder vote;
you've got the SEC issue right before you even get out the first printed
documents, so we -- you'll see this deal filed. We've given ourselves some time
to close this transaction, okay?
THE CALLER:
Okay, just one last question here in terms of some of the DOJ (phonetic)
implications and I understand your desire not to try to negotiate this over this
conference call, but just in terms of your perceptions, relative to two of the
major businesses, the merchant business and then the debit side of the business,
do you have any thoughts, going in, as to how the DOJ is likely to find market
shares in those businesses? For example, in the merchant processing business, do
you have a perception as to whether or not they treat alliances differently than
the non-alliance part of the business?
Then on the debit side, I mean, one could view the market two ways -- the
pin-debit market, where you would have two-thirds of that market. On the other
hand, if they define it as the total debit market, including signature debit,
you'd maybe have only 25 percent of the market, so any thoughts, based on prior
transactions or industry experience, how they are likely to treat these issues?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let me just talk about the alliances for a moment. The alliances compete within
First Data as hard as an alliance competes against another company in the
merchant business outside of First Data. So, you have alliance A and alliance B
going at it. By the way, the attrition rate from alliance A to alliance B are as
high, or very close, to the same attrition rates from a guy inside to a company
outside. I'm talking about
plus or minus -- some are higher and some are lower, so it's -- they are really
competing with each other, and that's a very good from a competition standpoint.
I will just leave alone. The rest of it, we will see how it plays out.
THE CALLER:
Just one last regulatory related question here -- Concord owns a bank. Does
acquiring a bank invite in any additional scrutiny or process that can consume
some time here? Are there any implications?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let me cut you off. The Bank won't be in this deal by the time it closes.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Pat Burton of Salomon Smith Barney.
THE CALLER:
Congratulations, Charlie, and congratulations to you, Dick. A question, Charlie
-- from the card issuance standpoint, can you talk about the strategic
importance now of being in the card issuance business as it relates to all the
new things you can do with the STAR banks and things like that?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I'm still excited about this deal. When they did the Western Union deal, we
weren't sure on the values because we had bought it three or four times before
we finally bought it. So, when you think of this deal -- and then
(indiscernible) opened up a whole bunch of opportunities for us. When you think
of this deal, you can now do authentication against the database,
(indiscernible) the issuing database, within yourself, right? So, I can verify
that Pat Burton is Pat Burton at a point-of-sale when he carries the card
(indiscernible) I can get access to the database on the other side. So this
brings new opportunities, from an authentication standpoint, and I tell you,
they are second to none here. This just comes with all the money we put into the
merchant business, all the money we put into the cardholder platform. The assets
and the variables (indiscernible) with those assets from transaction flow
variables -- it's just unbelievable, so a lot of opportunity here on new markets
and doing a transaction -- touching it and charging for it and touching it two
times (indiscernible) getting the efficiency of a onetime (inaudible) will help
us on some of the transactions. So this really opens up new opportunities for
us.
THE CALLER:
To follow up on the legally possible part on the buyback, would that mean the
deal has to actually close before you can buy back stock, or do you think it
could be sooner than that?
MR. CHARLES FOTE:
We will roll that out over time. You heard what I said (indiscernible)
allowable, so we are just going to leave it there, okay?
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Brandt Sakakeeny of Deutsche Bank.
THE CALLER:
Good morning. A question for both Dick and Charlie -- I guess I just wanted to
push back a little bit on this court case yesterday and the decision by Gleason,
who I guess is the judge, which fell pretty much in favor of the merchants. At
the margin, I mean, how much do you guys think that's going to really help the
bank renewal process, if any?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I'm not sure I understood the question. How does Gleason --?
THE CALLER:
Basically, the judge actually who was reviewing the merchant case -- the suit
from the merchants against Visa -- has basically come in favor of the merchants
and said, in essence, that the central point of their case -- which was that no
rational juror could fail to conclude that both debit and credit were two
distinct products and so basically, it looks like -- at this point -- a very big
victory for the merchants. How is that going to shape as you see, going forward,
the bank renewal process?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I'm not sure I understand the question. The product (indiscernible) what we are
going to be doing, going forward, because of what I've communicated. I'm more
(indiscernible) transaction from point A to point B. Branding is not as
important to us, from a revenue standpoint. Having said that, today we have bank
brands accepted at different merchants, right? If you think through the whole
process here and you have debit is different than credit and we have different
types of transactions (indiscernible) the point-of-sale and the bank branding
can be different. So what the judge ruled, versus how we get paid, it just
doesn't seem to fit, okay? But that's as deep as I will comment.
THE CALLER:
Okay. Second is, I guess with respect to the potential lawsuits against Concord,
vis-a-vis the shareholder lawsuits, was there any indemnification for existing
officers in that regard?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
You'll see public documents filed there. We will just leave that alone.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Dris Upitis of Credit Suisse First Boston.
THE CALLER:
Thanks. This is Paul (indiscernible) for Dris. Just a couple of quick cleanup
question -- is it safe to assume that Concord's results will be accounted for
similar to FDC now, as far as interchange?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Absolutely. On an ongoing basis, you will see -- all the pro formas that we're
publishing, even before closing, you'll see it the way we do it. (indiscernible
due to multiple speakers). You know Concord's figures here. In their last 10-K,
they footnoted their interchange.
THE CALLER:
Right. As far as the segments go, is there going to be any change in the way FDC
reports its segments? Will the old network business from Concord be broken out
separately, or will it just be rolled into merchant?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
It's too early to call right now, okay?
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
THE OPERATOR:
Greg Smith of Merrill Lynch.
THE CALLER:
Good morning. Just a quick question -- the share count -- the 200 million shares
-- seemed a little bit low. What happens to all the Concord options outstanding?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
(Indiscernible) on a share count, okay? It was optioned out; there were all
different pricings, so (indiscernible) our 200 million is an approximate number.
THE CALLER:
Okay, but are those options going to (indiscernible) or is there a change of
control, or will they carry over and be turned into First Data options?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
We want the optionees to work for us, so they will come across. There will be a
conversion rate that's the same rate, so they will come across.
THE CALLER:
That explains it. Thank you.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
Operator, let's take about two more questions here, okay?
THE OPERATOR:
No problem. Robert Dodd (phonetic) of Morgan Keegan.
THE CALLER:
Hi, Charlie. Can you give us two questions -- can you give us any perspective on
the number of data centers that you have out there? How many you are going to
consolidate? Where you are going to consolidate them? Then secondly, can you
give us any idea on how much -- if you are going to dispose of the Concord Bank
and some of the settlement fees and settlement revenues that Concord has been
getting on that side, can you give any indication of just how big that is in
terms of impact?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
It can only be -- the last question -- it can only be good. I'll go through that
in a minute. The first question -- we probably have 3782 data centers, so we
will strategically end up with data centers around the country. Let me give you
some examples. In the merchant business, we have (indiscernible), plus we have
some dualplex front ends that are different than the Quanta Plex. In the
(indiscernible) business, we have primary and backup centers. In the Western
Union business, we have primary and backup centers. Concord has primary and
backup centers, and in our ATM business -- our debit business -- we have primary
and backup centers. I
don't know the total number. When we are all done, we're going to shrink them
down, okay?
From a settlement standpoint, we are the largest user of the settlement networks
today, and we're settling merchant transactions and cardholder transactions
through our alliance banks and also directly with the card issuing banks. So, we
do not need the bank -- we do not need the Concord EFS Bank to do our
transaction movement. So, that will just get us -- scale us (indiscernible) and
I think we will pick up some scale on the settlement activities.
THE OPERATOR:
Brad Moore of Putnam Lovell.
THE CALLER:
Most of my questions were answered. A couple of follow-ups -- can you just
clarify for me again -- with regard to your 2004 assumption with regard to EPS
neutral impact -- what did you assume in terms of cost synergies in calendar
`04?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Kim, do you have it?
MS. KIM PATMORE:
We don't want to give the specifics, but we do think we will have about a cost
savings by the year 2005 of $230 million. Keep in mind that some of the impact
on 2004, of course, is the new intangible that's created. Like I mentioned
earlier, that's about $1.5 billion, just to be very clear on that.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
Remember, it's non-cash.
MS. KIM PATMORE:
It's estimated at this point, obviously.
THE CALLER:
Okay.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
That's non-cash.
THE CALLER:
Right. Then secondly, I'm curious to understand -- how much overlap is there in
the footprint between NYCE and STAR? Just how much of that is redundant? How
much capacity is redundant?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
I'm not going to -- that scale and these kinds of facts get into what makes you
do a deal and how much you pay for a deal and so on, so I don't want to get too
deep on that. Let me just tell you, there is a huge overlap in debit from a
merchant base and a cardholder base that just make sense, right? You pay your --
just think of debit cards, you pay your local bills with local checking
accounts. So, you probably use your debit card at local merchants from a local
area -- unlike credit cards, where you have regional merchants with national
issuers. In the debit card world, you have regional issuers with regional
merchants. So that's all the magic that gets in pricing a deal and re-upping
contracts and how much you pay for a transaction or a company like this. So,
I'll just leave it as magic for now, okay? You'll learn more about that, I
think, after the companies are put together and we talk at ongoing analyst
presentations.
THE CALLER:
Okay, last thing -- curious to know -- I think you responded to the question
about strategic alternatives with regard to your card issuing business. Can you
speak to other businesses? Does this raise the ante with regard to strategic
alternatives and what you might consider in terms of the possibilities now that
this deal is moving to the forefront?
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Let's just say this opens up new product offerings (indiscernible) touch without
real heavy investments at First Data, so this is very good for the future of
innovation that we bring to the payment industry.
THE CALLER:
Thank you.
COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE:
Thanks. Charlie, before we sign-off, I do want to just emphasize one thing you
had mentioned earlier. We do have our payments make-up investor day on May 8,
and we will get out detail in the next few days on that. Our earnings
announcement is coming up next Thursday, the tenth.
MR. CHARLIE FOTE:
Don't forget to hit star three for your free STAR card. (Laughter). Thanks a
lot, everyone. Have a great day. (CONFERENCE CALL CONCLUDED)